[Dryly. He's done worse things, certainly. After a moment -]
I don't want to win. I want to be understood.
It's about being able to make his own choices. He wasn't - he wasn't broken. He was exactly who he wanted to be. So I wasn't fixing him. I was making him no one.
You've got places where you're not who you want to be. And there are ways you could get help to change some of those places that cost less than this.
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[Dryly. He's done worse things, certainly. After a moment -]
I don't want to win. I want to be understood.
It's about being able to make his own choices. He wasn't - he wasn't broken. He was exactly who he wanted to be. So I wasn't fixing him. I was making him no one.
You've got places where you're not who you want to be. And there are ways you could get help to change some of those places that cost less than this.